But the Fox debate goes something like this. The Fox host will start by explaining what is happening, usually slanting it to the Conservative/Republican side. Then the person they have chosen to argue for comes on. They are usually always Conservative/Republican. They get an easy softball question from the host, and they get all the time they need without interruption to explain their position.
Then, the lamb being led to slaughter comes on. They are almost always Democrat/Liberal. They get a pretty hard/leading question, and before they can get their full point out, they will be interrupted by the host to clarify, or to be shouted down by the Republican. Lather, rinse, repeat for around 9 minutes.
On Friday, May 16th, Dana was on the Kelly File. Martha MacCallum was guest hosting. Ever been in a classroom with a substitute teacher? No offense to Martha, but you knew something was going to happen the moment this started. Jessica Erlich was the Democrat lamb to be led to slaughter.
As you can see, not only did Martha tell Dana to pipe down at one point, she didn't do anything to defend Dana. And things got a little nasty. Here's my take on a few of the parts:
ESSICA ERLICH: What I find sad and disturbing is that really what you have here are two attention-seeking reality television wannabe appearing brothers who are political activists who have an extreme agenda, and are trying to cloak it in this, sort of, you know, religious freedom characterization, and using that as a way to get, you know, their own business and drive that. And I find that very disturbing....
DANA LOESCH: Well, I have to jump into Jessica’s remark, I wonder if she finds it disturbing and attention-seeking that the brothers were actually committed still to the six families whose homes they were flipping for this television show. They had already started production and when HGTV pulled it, the brothers continued on their time and on their own dime, I might add, to continue their promise and fulfill what they said they were going to do with these families.
Disturbing? I don't find it disturbing that the Benham Brothers continued to flip homes for families on their own dime. But I do find it attention-seeking. What I find disturbing is that talk show hosts like Dana use that fact like a cudgel to beat all detractors over the head instead of debating the true point. You may as well have said, "They aren't attention-seeking, look at this thing they did to catch you attention." The real question is why are they not extremists? Souldn't you say something to refute this claim?
ERLICH: That has nothing to do with their political beliefs.Well, it is big enough for all of us. Dana is someone who characterizes Moms Demand Action so many bad ways, however. I do not feel she stands on steady ground when she preaches to us about just getting along.
LOESCH: Well, you just said that you found it disturbing. I just don’t understand the anti-Christian bigotry. I mean the world is big enough for all of us, don’t you think?
Instead of refuting Jessica's claim that the Benham brothers are extreme, Dana says the whole darn thing is anti-Christian bigotry. I would say that is shocking, but it is the latest conservative talking point when talking about the "homosexual" agenda. Jessica is offended by this statement, as most people should be. Nothing Jessica has said to this point approaches being anti-Christian. She has said the Benham Brothers are using their Christianity to further their political views. I, as a Christian, agree that if someone is doing this, it is disturbing to say the least.
Well, after some talking over each other, Dana finishes off strong telling Jessica, “You’ll learn more if you keep your mouth shut!” and the kicker, "If we’re going to have a theological discussion, let’s start with your name calling, your smearing of these brothers just because you’re an anti-Christian bigot!” I can almost hear the control booth in Martha's ear, "Go to commercial!" Dana wasn't done, though, She finishes with, "Your voice is shaking."
Now, Dana professes to be a Christian. She is also full of paradoxes. She heavily supports the second amendment. Yet when it comes to the 8th, she doesn't seem to care. When Oklahoma had their botched lethal injection, Dana thought the man didn't suffer enough. Yet the 8th amendment tells us the government can't inflict cruel and unusual punishment.
I fully expected to see a retraction and apology... oh, who am I kidding, Dana never admits she's wrong. In her blog post, Speaking Up For What's Right, Dana misses the mark on what being a Christian is. Here are a few of the low points:
I have friends and members of my own family who are gay, I have friends and family members who believe whole-heartedly that abortion is fantastic, and magically, we still all get along. I am not hurt if they do not share my beliefs no more than they are hurt that I do not share theirs. I care about these people, which is why I would never go out of my way to hurt them, especially over what we believe.Whenever you see someone use the "friend argument" you should know it's history. People don't look too kindly when this defense is used. I can't see why Dana would use it here.
It’s why it floors me that people like Ms. Ehrlich, who I’m sure prides herself on “equality” and compassion, would go out of her way to malign the characters of two men whose only crime seems to be that they are Christians. Perhaps she was not raised in a diverse environment and didn’t learn to coexist with people who think differently than she, but it’s about time she learned.People like Ms. Ehrlich? You do realize you should never use a phrase like, "people like you", unless it is followed by, "because you are a good person". And the crime isn't that they are Christians, but that they have extreme Christian views. And since Ms. Ehrlich is half Jewish, who's father and grandmother survived Nazi Germany, and has a mother who is an evangelical Christian, I'm pretty sure she had a diverse environment growing up.
I am not going to be misled into believing that I should be meek about my faith to appease those who do not share it, I am not going to be meek in defending other people of faith, or defending my faith, period, when it is unfairly maligned such as it was this evening. It is not a pejorative to say that someone is an anti-Christian bigot if, in fact, they are an anti-Christian bigot.Isn't there something in the bible about turning the other cheek? Meek shall inherit the Earth? I missed the one where he said to berate someone because you believe what you are saying is true.
People will feign more offense over the title than the action and the action must change before the label will. Do not allow yourself to be driven away from expressing or sharing your faith. Hold yourself to a standard of love, but the bottom line is that the truth isn’t mean, it’s the truth.But, " the truth isn’t mean, it’s the truth", isn't a Christian belief, it's Breitbart's Rule #12. Breitbart, I am lead to believe, was himself not a Christian.
So, in essence, Dana has fashioned herself into a Christian Bully. It wasn't bad to call Ms. Ehrlich an anti-Christian bigot, because Dana thought it was true. Just like a bully on the playground believes your face is ugly, so saying it isn't bad. Except instead of taking Ms. Ehrlich's lunch money, Dana reveled in the fact that she made her cry. With a smug grin, she said triumphantly at the end of the debate, "Your voice is shaking." I'm sorry, but that's not the kind of Christian values I can get behind.
I have friends and members of my own family who are gay, I have friends and family members who believe whole-heartedly that abortion is fantastic, and magically, we still all get along. I am not hurt if they do not share my beliefs no more than they are hurt that I do not share theirs. I care about these people, which is why I would never go out of my way to hurt them, especially over what we believe. - See more at: http://danaloeschradio.com/speaking-up-for-what-is-right/#sthash.R1adafl8.dpuf
I have friends and members of my own family who are gay, I have friends and family members who believe whole-heartedly that abortion is fantastic, and magically, we still all get along. I am not hurt if they do not share my beliefs no more than they are hurt that I do not share theirs. I care about these people, which is why I would never go out of my way to hurt them, especially over what we believe. - See more at: http://danaloeschradio.com/speaking-up-for-what-is-right/#sthash.R1adafl8.dpuf
I have friends and members of my own family who are gay, I have friends and family members who believe whole-heartedly that abortion is fantastic, and magically, we still all get along. I am not hurt if they do not share my beliefs no more than they are hurt that I do not share theirs. I care about these people, which is why I would never go out of my way to hurt them, especially over what we believe. - See more at: http://danaloeschradio.com/speaking-up-for-what-is-right/#sthash.R1adafl8.dpuf
I have friends and members of my own family who are gay, I have friends and family members who believe whole-heartedly that abortion is fantastic, and magically, we still all get along. I am not hurt if they do not share my beliefs no more than they are hurt that I do not share theirs. I care about these people, which is why I would never go out of my way to hurt them, especially over what we believe. - See more at: http://danaloeschradio.com/speaking-up-for-what-is-right/#sthash.R1adafl8.dpuf
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